i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.
the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.
it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.
So far in testing of self driving cars, there have been eleven accidents in 1.7 million miles, none due to the fault of the self driving cars. I like those odds.
1.7 million miles sounds a little suspicious to me. They would need to have tested something like 17 cars for 100,000 miles each.
i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.
the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.
it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.
truthseeker,
What if a large plastic bag is blowing in the wind in front of you and activates that feature?
"Well I guess you would brake and the bag would blow by."
A plastic bag could easily hit the front of your car below the hood and stay there until you're parked. Such involuntary application of the brakes could cause an accident if there is a car behind you going at high speed.
i love science and technology and we are living in a golden age right now.
the world has changed in so many incredible ways just in the time i've been alive.. my first car was a vauxhall viva.
it was brilliant because it was my first car and represented freedom.
i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.
i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.
maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..
I would not recommend the use of any illustration which illustrates people coming out of any destroyed areas unharmed. This could be misinterpreted by the public as any general post apocalypse sci-fi movie where ordinary people are fleeing in safety. People will just shrug it off.
The illustrations in the children's books shows ordinary people dying and in direct danger of their lives. One of the books actually shows a woman holding a dead child in her arms.
hi guys & gals,.
we finally get to tackle the 607 bc debate in our last show of the season.. please leave any comments here and let us know if you agree or disagree with any of the points we brought up about 607 bc.. http://www.jwpodcast.org/2015/05/24/s01e14-607-bc/.
love,jaymes.
SimonSays, "What if someone proved 607BC to be a viable date through secular history, what then."
The 607 year issue is not the only broken link on the chain. Their weak points are:
So go ahead and prove that point since nothing that has happened in the past 137 years fulfills any historical events.
hi guys & gals,.
we finally get to tackle the 607 bc debate in our last show of the season.. please leave any comments here and let us know if you agree or disagree with any of the points we brought up about 607 bc.. http://www.jwpodcast.org/2015/05/24/s01e14-607-bc/.
love,jaymes.
truthseeker100, I wasn't in during the 1990s but I think it was around 1995 when the Watchtower did its first major revision on the 1914 issue. This was, if I'm not mistaken, before the overlapping generations teaching.
hi guys & gals,.
we finally get to tackle the 607 bc debate in our last show of the season.. please leave any comments here and let us know if you agree or disagree with any of the points we brought up about 607 bc.. http://www.jwpodcast.org/2015/05/24/s01e14-607-bc/.
love,jaymes.
I think we should focus not on the 607BCE issue but rather on their different views of 1914 in the past 130 years. As Simon says no one wants to do the math.
Here are the basic metamorphosis that 1914 went through:
!) The end was a period of time from 1799 to 1914. Armageddon was a 40 year period between 1874 and 1914 which was supposed to have been a period of social anarchy. The Millennium would begin in 1914.
The earthquakes, famines and wars predicted in Matthew 24 were fulfilled in the past 1800 years (from the point of view in the late 1880s) since that prophecy was made.
2) Then, sometime after that failed to come about, they said that the end would occur within the lives of those who witnessed the events of 1914.
Throughout the 1970s to early 1990s the age of reason of those who witnessed the events of 1914 was considered to be young adults. But later they shrunk the age down to children but indicated that infants were included. When that failed they changed that to infants born in 1914.
3) Now we got the "overlapping generations".
it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!
do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?
for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!
Fisherman,
"The missing variable is Eve's age. The Bible does not say when she came into the picture. How long was Adam without Eve, 40 years?"
Actually it's the ages of Cain and Abel that limit the span of time since 1975. I once calculated it and I came up with about 130 years until the end of 6,000 years of man's existence.
Bungi Bill,
"Furthermore, this same talk had been recorded only several weeks earlier. Prior to 1975, there was certainly nothing said about the matter of Eve's creation and how that affected things. In fact, a magazine article in 1968 (entitled "Why are you looking forward to 1975?") emphatically stated that the time lag between the end of 6000 years of human creation and The Big A "might only be a matter of weeks.""
I was there at the Inglewood forum, around 1974, (Southern California) when I heard Fred Franz give his view of 1975. He stated that Armageddon would happen within months or a few years after 1975 but not decades. He even stated that Jehovah would not allow the end to be decades after 1975 because Adam would have been tempted into bestiality (the longer the time period, the longer Adam is without Eve)!!!
I remember having a tape recorder taping the talk. I don't know where that tape is or even if I still have it.
since this is the first weekend of rcs, anyone going that can give estimates of how many are getting baptized, how many appeared about that were jw youth, and what attendance figure is at these rcs?.
i know u.s. baptisms are declining.
can any keep a running report?
i was informed today by a jw that the watchtower doesn't use images and propaganda to instil fear.
i would really like to see a compilation of all their armageddon illustrations.
maybe a thread or web page already exists that had this content.. the one i am really wanting is the most recent picture of the witnesses in the basement during the tribulation.. this will be a massive help so thank you..
